tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760986403290352152.post2586739809235579230..comments2024-01-23T03:58:02.422-08:00Comments on oriana-poetry: ENTER YOUR OWN CARMELUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760986403290352152.post-65316225512520705012012-07-05T11:32:13.295-07:002012-07-05T11:32:13.295-07:00Addendum: After reading Mark Salzman's "A...Addendum: After reading Mark Salzman's "Awake," I am completely cured of my fantasies of entering Carmel (in the literal, not metaphorical sense. The book presented daily life in the convent, and my constant response was "the horror, the horror." It's a very poetic, gorgeously written book, and yet -- it entirely cured me of my fantasies.orianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04209366167129773052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760986403290352152.post-82435822853653185922010-07-07T13:01:22.768-07:002010-07-07T13:01:22.768-07:00Yes, "if you want to bear the cross, get marr...Yes, "if you want to bear the cross, get married." Oh well, everyone has two selves, each dreaming of a secret third. There is no removing the Catholic imprint. And now I am glad . . . it makes me feel richer.<br /><br />Saint John of the Cross committed a crime, out of piety of course: in the name of detachment, he burned all the letters he'd received from Teresa. But this he did only toward the end of his life, admitting it was a very great attachment.<br /><br />Catholic spirituality, in the sense of being a "deep Catholic," has little to do with church Catholicism -- except for that wonderful radiant dusk that old churches have. But I am thrilled at how many-stranded the emerging new spirituality has become. We no longer have to try to fit into any narrow doctrine.orianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04209366167129773052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760986403290352152.post-15515671241631381362010-07-05T18:02:53.544-07:002010-07-05T18:02:53.544-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.orianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04209366167129773052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7760986403290352152.post-71731969787423223152010-07-05T05:41:25.960-07:002010-07-05T05:41:25.960-07:00I like everything about this post! I once tried t...I like everything about this post! I once tried to connect with St Teresa through poetry--came up with a series, "Inside Teresa's Castle," based on her "Interior...but clearly I lack the connection that you have. The poem is wonderful. I've tried to connect with Saint John of the Cross, too, but I think I've come to believe that even though I am a totally non-observant Jew, I still want to tell all those cloistered folk--why don't you just find a nice Jewish boy (or girl) and settle down to kids and family. And yet, there's still a resistant strain of Catholic spirituality within me--and thanks for helping to bring it out here.myshkin2https://www.blogger.com/profile/16761111724832118246noreply@blogger.com